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« on: Thu Feb 15, 2007, 12:23:59 AM »

I am hitting this forum with both barrels, because, simply, God has had me posting this material on GLP for the last year:

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who is israel? who is a jew?
   

who is israel?
who is a jew?

israel = children of God
children of God = those led by the Holy Spirit
gift of Holy Spirit goes to those in Christ
Christ is the VINE - children of God are the branches

God DIVORCED the natural Jews, they BROKE their Mosaic covnenant

the only way to become the children of God is to be in Christ and obeying the Holy Spirit

who is a JEW?

He who is circumcised in HEART, is a jew

no special status with God, WHATSOEVER, exists for natural israelites or jews (children of Judah, benjamin, and/or levi)

Please reread to understand the truth

that land over there in palestine is no different that any other piece of real estate on planet earth, in the eyes of God

Jerusalem, ABOVE, is our Mother
Jerusalem was always the Mother Holy Spirit, God's Wife.

The Jerusalem on earth is just a SHADOW, used to teach mankind the truth

The New Jerusalem comes from above, and the children of God are its PILLARS. We create the New Jerusalem by obeying the Mother Holy Spirit who baptizes us with FIRE.

the LAND of ISRAEL is the whole creation which Jesus inherited from the Father. We children of God inherit the whole earth, which will be renewed.

People have got to take their eyes off of that place in the middle east, and put their eyes ON GOD, asking Him to teach them how to hear His voice, so they can be saved.

Forget about the natural jews, the natural land of israel, and their city of jerusalem - which are all being manipulated by the evil-mind-beings to deceive this whole world.

WAKE UP!
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« Reply #1 on: Thu Feb 15, 2007, 12:35:48 AM »

This TRUTH has been one of THE hardest ones for God to get through to me.  Apparently, the LIE about natural israel being the chosen people is SO STRONG that it must be in our genes!  Constantly, whenever God would show me AGAIN that they have no special status with Him, I would question myself whether I was hearing Him right.  I would ask God, did you say that?  Again, and Again, over a long period of time.  Whenever the subject would come up again, in my daily living, over and over, God would remind me:

  • God is no respecter of persons
  • There is neither Jew nor Greek, Male nor Female....
  • There is one vine
  • He is a jew who is circumcised in heart
  • The Jerusalem of God, the City of God, is ABOVE
  • Anyone who tried to come up another way, is a thief and a robber
We need God's HELP to exorcise this LIE out of our souls.  There are other MAJOR LIES that are as tough as this one, and I will be posting about one of them soon.



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Re: who is israel? who is a jew?

Quote from: "Bible"
Jer 3:7 And I said after she had done all these things, Turn thou unto me. But she returned not. And her treacherous sister Judah saw it.
Jer 3:8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.

Keep reading in that area and understand what God is saying about ZION, and JERUSALEM, as cities in HEAVEN for those who are in Christ.

So unless the natural israelites or jews come back to the Father through JEsus Christ, the Father has DIVORCED THEM.


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Jer 3:20 Surely as a wife treacherously departeth from her husband, so have ye dealt treacherously with me, O house of Israel, saith the LORD.


You know what gets me?

so many times God talks about people obeying His voice. over and over and over.

what part of obeying his Voice, is hard to understand?

Ask HIM and He will teach you to hear His Voice.

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Joh 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Joh 6:45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.


All who hear Him are taught, learn from Him, AUTOMATICALLY come to Jesus.

see how easy God made it?
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« Reply #2 on: Thu Feb 15, 2007, 12:42:28 AM »

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Re: who is israel? who is a jew?

The point is:

all this jew, israel, and jerusalem stuff, IN THE NATURAL, is nothing but a DISTRACTION!

A DISTRACTION!
A DISTRACTION!
A DISTRACTION!
A DISTRACTION!
A DISTRACTION!
A DISTRACTION!
A DISTRACTION!

Let me give you an example.

If, you and I, were in, the complete truth, then what goes on with those issues, would have no affect on us, whatsoever. If that statement is true, then, if instead, you FOCUSED on those issue, you would be, distracted, from your truth, and then, those very issues, WOULD AFFECT YOU.

Here is another example. If, If, it is true that God is not more interested in natural jews, natural state of israel, and natural jerusalem, than He is in, any other ethnic group, state/nation, or capital city, THEN what God's intentions are for the human race, is not BOUND by what happens with those issues. God's timing for what He intends to do, is not bound by what time something or anything happens or not, with those issues. God's PLANS for right now, would have no bearing on what happens or does not happen with those issues.

I hope that helps us get free of watching the controlled media, while thinking that somehow when some certain thing happens, that suddenly, we will know what it means, or what to do. When, instead, we could be about being in the TRUTH, seeking the truth, so that we can be ready to receive God's plan into our lives and neighborhoods, and make it through this transition.

All those issues, and people involved with the evil-mind-beings will FADE INTO NON-EXISTENCE, from our perspective. We do NOT have to participate with them or their fate. They create all this DRAMA, to draw US into their DEATH, EVIL, and NON-EXISTENCE. They appeal to our fascination with evil power and carnage - they appeal to our carnal mind who is trying to destroy our souls. They are attempting to ENSNARE us into their destruction.

If you do not have the CERTAINTY and TRUST that God will take care of you and CAN take care of you, then you will succomb to all the FEAR that the evil-mind-beings are promulgating.

Being able to hear God's voice for your self is the prime directive right now; ask HIM to help you learn to hear Him. He will answer you. Time is short.




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Re: who is israel? who is a jew?

the following was NOT written by me:

10th Feb, 2007

I am now depositing fresh deposits of My power within many of you. When you are unaware or resting in Me, I will place My fresh deposit within you.

This deposit will be a greater amount of My Spirit that is going to enable you to bring forth signs and wonders in your midst.

It is not something that you man can do, it is only done by the power of My Spirit. I am now releasing this power to those who have been faithful to Me and who have been seeking Me wholeheartedly.

I am now releasing this power within your midst, a surge of heavenly electricity that is going to usher forth heaven to earth in greater ways.

Many of you are in places where your heart does not truly feel at home, many of you have wondered "how long Oh Lord, before you deliver me from this place?" but I say unto you I am placing this power within you, so that you may minister to many in this place, many around you.

You will see heaven touch earth in your midst as you continue to be faithful.

I am only releasing these new deposits of power within those whom I can trust. Those who are responsible to be stewards of this power, My power and not use it for selfish game, or prideful proclamations.

I am releasing this deposit, and many of you are receiving it right now, and many of you will receive it in the coming weeks.

Eyes will be opened, ears will be opened, the deaf will hear, the blind will see, the lame will walk. This is coming into your midst, and will be seen by many.

Make sure you stay close to Me, as it's going to be something that many will chase after you for, it will bring forth many attacks, and many will try to sidle up beside many of you to try and lure you to use this power in ways that I have not called you too. Keep your eyes open My church, keep your head rested upon My chest so you can hear My heart and My wisdom.

Do not allow this power to be taken from you by those whom I have not released it too. Do not make this deposit of power known to all, but keep it hidden in your heart. Follow My prompting and know that I am going to lead you down paths that you have never been.

My Church, many of you are in the hidden places now, places where you would not choose to be, but in these places I am training you to use this power I have released upon you, before I release you into the places of greater responsibility.
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« Reply #3 on: Thu Feb 15, 2007, 12:44:43 AM »

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Re: who is israel? who is a jew?

I hope people noticed that last message about God putting power deposits in His children, did not sound like a channelling of the evil-mind-beings who promise NOTHING.

They are trying to destroy any humans that believe them. Bottom line.

I am not a fundamentalist christian attacking new agers, either. I hung out with new agers and was a lightworker with them for 10 years; I know what they have been taught by the evil-mind-beings. I had to learn and be willing to let the Holy Spirit HELP me discern the truth from the lies in what they teach, so that I could be taught the true cosmogeny by God. And I have had to suffer being kicked off christian forums for having a new-agey nickname or website with new-agey stuff, and being called a witch, and what have you.

But the point is, you can see the STARK difference in MESSAGES that humans receive from God about His plans, and messages received from so-called light beings/ascended masters about their plans.

God tells us, I know you are weak and have no power, and thats just the way you should be, having entered into My rest, so now I, GOD, can do the works through you. God says He will change us, fill us with His power, glory, Holiness, fire - we will know Him, be one with Him like He was with Jesus. And we have FAITH in these words.

the ascended masters tell us, you are GOD, you will ascend, you will MERGE with your higher self, you will spread light and love, we will arrest the illuminati for you, we will clean up your pollution, we will intervene before it gets too bad, we will set up new governments, release all debts, a chicken in every pot!

and some people believe these things, BY FAITH.

which plan would you put YOUR FAITH IN?

And will you ask (pray) God to send His people who are on fire, to your neighborhood? Since you want to see it first, before you will believe it? And when they cause a commotion on main st, in the center of your town, will you go there and believe it, then? Will you receive them as ambassadors of the True God, then? or will your carnal mind be able to convince you to reject them?

When the mass landing of UFO's happens, and the TV media talking heads tell you, THEY'RE HERE! and that they come in peace, and you can come down to the city square and see the ships, and go on tours of the ships, and there will now be peace on earth. Will you go? will you believe in that? its on TV it must be true? would your carnal mind talk you out of that, or urge you to agree with joining allegiance with the alien agenda?

cuz there may come a time when both kinds of events are happening at the same time. war, natural disasters, aliens, and miracle working disciples of God, all vying for your attention. CHAOS.

are we ready for all this?
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« Reply #4 on: Tue May 29, 2007, 10:09:27 PM »

You also can be helped by reading this:

There is neither Jew nor Greek

nevermind, I will repost it here also!



   


There is neither Jew nor Greek

Quote from: The Bible
1Ch 28:3 But God said unto me, Thou shalt not build a house for my name, because thou hast been a man of war, and hast shed blood.
1Ch 28:4 Howbeit the LORD God of Israel chose me before all the house of my father to be king over Israel forever: for he hath chosen Judah to be the ruler; and of the house of Judah, the house of my father; and among the sons of my father he liked me to make me king over all Israel:

1Ch 28:5 And of all my sons, (for the LORD hath given me many sons,) he hath chosen Solomon my son to sit upon the throne of the kingdom of the LORD over Israel.
1Ch 28:6 And he said unto me, Solomon thy son, he shall build my house and my courts: for I have chosen him to be my son, and I will be his father.

1Ch 28:7 Moreover I will establish his kingdom forever, if he be constant to do my commandments and my judgments, as at this day.
1Ch 28:8 Now therefore in the sight of all Israel the congregation of the LORD, and in the audience of our God, keep and seek for all the commandments of the LORD your God: that ye may possess this good land, and leave it for an inheritance for your children after you forever.

1Ch 28:9 And thou, Solomon my son, know thou the God of thy father, and serve him with a perfect heart and with a willing mind: for the LORD searcheth all hearts, and understandeth all the imaginations of the thoughts: if thou seek him, he will be found of thee; but if thou forsake him, he will cast thee off forever.
1Ch 28:10 Take heed now; for the LORD hath chosen thee to build a house for the sanctuary: be strong, and do it.

1Ch 28:11 Then David gave to Solomon his son the pattern of the porch,
 

....... etc on the pattern


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1Ch 28:7  Moreover I will establish his kingdom forever, if he be constant to do my commandments and my judgments, as at this day.
1Ch 28:8  Now therefore in the sight of all Israel the congregation of the LORD, and in the audience of our God, keep and seek for all the commandments of the LORD your God: that ye may possess this good land, and leave it for an inheritance for your children after you forever.

1Ch 28:9  And thou, Solomon my son, know thou the God of thy father, and serve him with a perfect heart and with a willing mind: for the LORD searcheth all hearts, and understandeth all the imaginations of the thoughts: if thou seek him, he will be found of thee; but if thou forsake him, he will cast thee off forever.



This convenant with God regarding the temple has a conditional clause: IF IF IF
And God gave King David the patterns which are after the pattern of the temple in New Jerusalem in Heaven. The physical things of God on earth are a shadow of the more perfect ones in the New Jerusalem. Something the Lord impressed on me last night is that His Kingdom MANIFESTS from the SECOND HEAVEN on down to our FIRST HEAVEN. In the THIRD HEAVEN where the TRINITY resides, all things are SPIRITUAL, and not PHYSICAL. We believers need to make note that the coming of the Kingdom is all about TAKING BACK the SECOND HEAVEN from the REBELLION of the FALLEN SPIRITS. We fight; we fight NOT, against flesh and blood, but the spiritual rebellion in the second heaven.

Therefore, when the ancient prophets had visions of God the Father in a physical FORM, these visions would emanate from the Second Heaven. I know this is difficult to comprehend, but mostly because we are so indoctrinated by the teachings of man. Think of it in this way: once a spiritual entity is cast down, or comes down, from the third heaven to the second heaven, it must take on FORM. So fallen angels become demons and UFO aliens. Good angels take on a form to do God's messenger and ministering missions. And so, therefore did and does God the Father take on a form to show Himself in visions to His prophets, such as Isaiah, and Ezekiel who both saw the Lord on His throne. Now then, when we read in the old testament, God refer to His Hand, His Arm, the soles of His feet, etc. these are literally the body parts of a Person, in the second Heaven that represents, stands for, is the face of, and is for us, the Father. This Person is Elijah. You will have to study the few places Elijah is mentioned in the Bible and use your strong's concordance to ferret Him out. For when He left Elisha, Elisha called out my father, my father! And when Jesus was on the cross He cried out Eli Eli. And when Elijah sat under the juniper tree he said I am not good enough to be part of the Father. Or when Elijah made his proclamation about no rain, he said "whose face I confirm". And when Elijah talked to another prophet and told him to go get the king, the prophet said, no, because you are always disapearing and flitting about from here to there as God moves you. So, when Elijah left in a flaming chariot, because he was in form, he went back to the Second Heaven.

I know this is difficult. What we have been blind to, is the true and rightful GOVERNMENT in the second heaven under the Trinity in the third heaven. Look at it this way: If the spirits in the third heaven had NOT rebelled, then whose places of thrones and dominions are they, that exist in the second heaven? Those places belong to the Sons of God, through Adam. The Christ came down from the Trinity to redeem the entire creation, all three heavens back to God.

The major reason I am writing these things to you today, is to assist you in developing your understanding of God's government. His government does not just START at the third heaven, and skip the second heaven, and then continue in our first heaven. That is why in the "Our Father" we are asked to pray, your will be done on Earth, as it is in Heaven. Now you can see that this prayer is asking for His Will to be done in both Earth and the Second Heaven. Why? Because it is a given that His Will is done in His third Heaven. Remember the Bible says that we will judge angels (the fallen ones), and dont you think they know that too? Therefore the principalities and powers pull out the stops to keep us from getting it, what our rights in Christ, all include, which is also THEIR usurped thrones!

So in the Bible where it says we will see the face of God, the Father has prepared a Face for Himself, and it is Elijah. The Christ also has his manifested Body, which is Jesus of Nazareth. And the Holy Spirit will have a manifested body, which is the Daughter of Zion; whereas Jerusalem, above, is our Mother. All these truths are HARD HARD HARD! I know that. I can not ignore what I have been shown by the Lord since 1979 and more specifically to these matters, since 2002.

Quote from: The Bible
Mic 4:6 In that day, saith the LORD, will I assemble her that halteth, and I will gather her that is driven out, and her that I have afflicted;
Mic 4:7 And I will make her that halted a remnant, and her that was cast far off a strong nation: and the LORD shall reign over them in mount Zion from henceforth, even forever.

Mic 4:8 And thou, O tower of the flock, the stronghold of the daughter of Zion, unto thee shall it come, even the first dominion; the kingdom shall come to the daughter of Jerusalem.
Mic 4:9 Now why dost thou cry out aloud? is there no king in thee? is thy counselor perished? for pangs have taken thee as a woman in travail.

Mic 4:10 Be in pain, and labor to bring forth, O daughter of Zion, like a woman in travail: for now shalt thou go forth out of the city, and thou shalt dwell in the field, and thou shalt go even to Babylon; there shalt thou be delivered; there the LORD shall redeem thee from the hand of thine enemies.
Mic 4:11 Now also many nations are gathered against thee, that say, Let her be defiled, and let our eye look upon Zion.

Mic 4:12 But they know not the thoughts of the LORD, neither understand they his counsel: for he shall gather them as the sheaves into the floor.
Mic 4:13 Arise and thresh, O daughter of Zion: for I will make thine horn iron, and I will make thy hooves brass: and thou shalt beat in pieces many people: and I will consecrate their gain unto the LORD, and their substance unto the Lord of the whole earth.


Mic 4
:And thou,
O tower of the flock,
the stronghold of the daughter of Zion,
unto thee shall it come,
even the first dominion;
the kingdom shall come
to the daughter of Jerusalem
.
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This daughter of Zion person, is the one whose face will represent the Holy Spirit. She is the woman of Revelations chapter 12 who brings forth the Manchild. She is the Tree of Faith. She is the only begotten Daughter of the Holy Spirit. Now, the way the Lord has taught me this over the years is via LOGIC and SCIENCE! Then later, since 2002 He started showing me the identities in the Bible. I did write a long essay explaining where God's leaders of His government in the Second Heaven came from, by starting with the VOID of NOTHINGNESS and the Father. This can all be explained logically, because God is Real and His knowledge and ways are past our understanding. My point is, there is a reason that this is the truth that can be understood by even children.

This is a HARD HARD HARD writing:


If you read all of that page then you will understand WHY God had me hang out with New Agers, while still remaining a Christian, so that I could understand what the rebellious spirits were orchestrating in the second heaven, and WHY they LIE. And, so I could be available to God with those understandings to PRAY and RESTORE the truth, by Faith in Him, about the status of His rightfull government in the Second Heaven, under Christ.

Now, this daughter of Zion is the partner to Elijah and the two of them together are the two witnesses for God, from the Second Heaven down to our First Heaven. Remember, Jesus is the ONLY ONE who can go from the First Heaven because He was a man, to the Third Heaven, because He is Christ. So, the only three that bare witness in the Third Heaven, are, the Father, the Holy Spirit, and the Son. Now in the Second Heaven, you have the Adam (who represents manifestation of God's Body), Elijah, and the Daughter of Zion. The SEVENTH Spirit of God, are all of us, His Children, the Sons of God. These are the SEVEN, and mystery of God. By the way, the Seventh is called JOY; we are God's JOY. Elijah is called Light (or God's Mind), the Daughter of Zion is called Faith, and Adam is called the Man (representing all physicality). These are the seven spirits of God.

People, God makes it real. Because He does, the Rebellion has used this truth to deceive people with their claims of running the creation themselves. They use science, gnosticism (worship of knowledge itself), and superstition (false signs and wonders) to deceive humans (who have the right to rule with Christ) into worshipping the false gods (and aliens). And they do all this because they themselves do not believe in God (they've been in a fallen state and DENIAL so long that they are literally INSANE), and they have NO ACCESS to the Third Heaven to prove to themselves that God does indeed exist and is Lord over all. Therefore they see our FAITH as silly and not real, because they have their PHYSICAL SCIENCE and KNOWLEDGE to prove to them that they have the right to rule by a DEMOCRACY in creation, which is simply MOB RULE. They are INSANE; please remember that.

In other words, the very thing they worship, knowledge, has been taken from them, thus they are unable to deduce logically based on any new information, such as the ability of a puny human to cast them about by faith in the Name, the NAME, of Jesus Christ. And I will tell you what the Rebellion hates the most: FREE WILL. That is why they are OBSESSED with CONTROL. Now, you will begin to understand the world around you better.

Back to Neither Jew nor Greek (which is what I started to write about today!)

Something Jerry Golden said in his recent report caused me to go to the Bible to check.

"After the 1967 war we now have the ability to go to the Western Wall and pray where God says His heart and eyes shall be there perpetually. II Chronicles 7:15-16"

So, I checked and noticed that Jerry skipped the surrounding verses and IF / Conditional statements from God.

Quote from: The Bible
2Ch 7:12 And the LORD appeared to Solomon by night, and said unto him, I have heard thy prayer, and have chosen this place to myself for a house of sacrifice.
2Ch 7:13 If I shut up heaven that there be no rain, or if I command the locusts to devour the land, or if I send pestilence among my people;

2Ch 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

So God says, if I have to punish your sinful ways, and IF You REPENT then our relationship will be okay again. Continuing:

Quote from: The Bible
2Ch 7:15 Now mine eyes shall be open, and mine ears attent unto the prayer that is made in this place.
2Ch 7:16 For now have I chosen and sanctified this house, that my name may be there forever: and mine eyes and mine heart shall be there perpetually.


The NOW, refers back to the IF my people humble themselves, pray, seek, and TURN (repent)....


Quote from: The Bible
2Ch 7:17 And as for thee, if thou wilt walk before me, as David thy father walked, and do according to all that I have commanded thee, and shalt observe my statutes and my judgments;
2Ch 7:18 Then will I establish the throne of thy kingdom, according as I have covenanted with David thy father, saying, There shall not fail thee a man to be ruler in Israel.

2Ch 7:19 But if ye turn away, and forsake my statutes and my commandments, which I have set before you, and shall go and serve other gods, and worship them;
2Ch 7:20 Then will I pluck them up by the roots out of my land which I have given them; and this house, which I have sanctified for my name, will I cast out of my sight, and will make it to be a proverb and a byword among all nations.

2Ch 7:21 And this house, which is high, shall be an astonishment to every one that passeth by it; so that he shall say, Why hath the LORD done thus unto this land, and unto this house?
2Ch 7:22 And it shall be answered, Because they forsook the LORD God of their fathers, which brought them forth out of the land of Egypt, and laid hold on other gods, and worshiped them, and served them: therefore hath he brought all this evil upon them.

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so as we can see, this explains why Jerusalem, in the physical, and that land of Israel, in the physical is FORSAKEN OF GOD.

They had a CONDITIONAL covenant, which they broke their half. We have a perpetual unconditional covenant as the SEED of Abraham; that seed being Christ. Our half of the covenant is performed by God Himself. It is SURE! All we do is offer up the measure of faith that God gave us in the first place, AND we only do THAT when HE draws us with His Holy Spirit. So, we can do NOTHING; our covenant is based on GRACE through FAITH.

I started to write this message because last nite it came to me to ask the Lord, what happened between the last prophet in the old testament and the coming of John the baptist in the new testament? Why were there no sayings or prophecies from You? And He answered, what do you think? ( He often answers like that). So, I said, I will have to get up tomorrow and look it up on the internet. He said, no, just think about it now. And it came to me, there were no suitable vessels of believers in the Lord through whom He could speak. Therefore when the fullness of time came that He would send Christ, He had to bring in people who were chosen from the foundation of the world, and formed in the womb to be the forerunners and disciples of Christ.

In the same way, now 2000 years (not 400 years), later, we have a time period in which God is raising up a People, the Manchild ministers, formed in their mother's womb to be the forerunners of the return of Christ and the setting up of His Kingdom and restoration of the whole creation, including the Second Heaven dominion, back to God.

Quote from: The Bible
Mat 17:9 And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead.
Mat 17:10 And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elijah must first come

Mat 17:11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elijah truly shall first come, and restore all things.
Mat 17:12 But I say unto you, That Elijah is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.

Mat 17:13 Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.

Mat 17:11 And Jesus answered
and said unto them,
Elijah truly shall first come,
and 
restore all things.

Here is where many get confused about whether John the baptist was Elijah. The answer has to do with the fact that Israel REJECTED their Messiah, so therefore, He could NOT establish the Kingdom after His ressurrection. If He had, then John would have fullfilled the Elijah mission. But John did not do any of the things that the prophecy states about Elijah, so even Jesus knew then, that the rejection of John, postponed the coming of the Kingdom in manifestation. John did NOT restore all things. John did not restore the hearts of the fathers to the sons. John did NOT oust all the false prophets like Elijah did, which Elijah will do this time to all the false shepherds. Because this time Elijah is coming as the Father Himself!

Again, go back to Psalms where the Father says, Son, sit on my right hand until I (the Father) make thine enemies thy footstool. And also in many places God the Father says, I will stand up and come down to earth myself. As he did even when He visited Abraham before the judgement on Sodom and Gomorrah.

Quote from: The Bible
Mic 1:2 Hear, all ye people; hearken, O earth, and all that therein is: and let the Lord GOD be witness against you, the Lord from his holy temple.
Mic 1:3 For, behold, the LORD cometh forth out of his place, and will come down, and tread upon the high places of the earth.

Mic 1:4 And the mountains shall be molten under him, and the valleys shall be cleft, as wax before the fire, and as the waters that are poured down a steep place.


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Rev 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
Rev 6:17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?


They see Him on the throne, and He is not the Lamb. The Father comes first, and the Son's coming with wrath (vesture dipped in blood) is last.

Here is an excerpt of an earlier posting:

Did anyone else reRead Daniel chapter seven!

WOW

There is much there that I missed before. The idea of "I Am trans-positioning all things" is borne out in Daniel Chapter Seven.

Even the Father Himself appears to come down to Earth! I browsed a couple of Bible commentaries on the web concerning the verses about the Ancient of Days, and they think it is saying that the Father is sitting on His throne in Heaven. But when I read it, the Spirit was helping me and the text at face value indicates that the Father comes to Earth to SIT in judgement AND help the Saints!

Quote from: The Bible
Dan 7:9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.
Dan 7:10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.




While I was readin this when the thrones were cast down, immediately I was reminded of the 24 elders in the book of Revelation who cast their CROWNS at His feet. And later when I read about this fiery stream I was reminded of the former and latter rain coming together, and the Holy Spirit filling us here on earth. That dovetails in with the thousands ministering to Him.


Quote from: The Bible
Dan 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.


Here is the certain indication that the Father was HERE ON EARTH and the Son comes from Heaven to Him!

If this is correct, WE SHOULD BE EXPECTING THE FATHER TO COME TO US!

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When the Lord had me to study Ezekiel chapters 36 and 37 a couple of months ago, the Spirit explained to me that the valley of the dry bones refers to the resurrection of the dead. Last nite, the understanding was given to me, that as we manifest as the Sons of God, most assuredly we will want to raise our own beloved dead, who will come to work with us as a great army for the Lord. Notice how they are in Heaven saying in essence, "we are ready to help on Earth but we are not in our bodies!"

Now imagine the picture of all this going on at the same time. We manifesting and opening up doors to Heaven with the Keys given to us, and going in and out of Heaven, finding pasture, and yes, meeting in the Heavenlies. Sure, we get our crowns, but we throw them off our heads, because we are not to rule IN Heaven, but on Earth. We want to go back to Earth and help with the Harvest. We come back and do miracles even greater than Jesus did, including raising the dead; and our own personal dearly departed ones. While all this is going on, the Adversary knows his time is short, .... the ministries of this great army of God which consists of the TWO STICKS in Ezekiel chapter 37, the dead in Christ returned, and we which are alive and remain, the Manifest Sons of God (the Manchild).

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The two sticks are made one, ALL ISRAEL, which is all that are in Christ. Judah being those who are alive and remain who have, in Christ, the Scepter ON EARTH. The house of Israel, being those dead in Christ who are scattered in their graves all around the earth. This is the proper way to view the dry bones and attending prophecy. The deception has been to cause believers to focus on the physical nation of Israel and those who claim to be jews (and are not according to Jesus' words in Rev. 2:9 and 3:9 to the only two churches that had nothing wrong with them).
He is a jew which is one inwardly, circumcised of the Heart; given that new heart promised in Ezekiel.

Quote from: The Bible
Eze 36:25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
Eze 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you a heart of flesh.

Eze 36:27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
Eze 36:28 And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.


Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Rev 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Rev 21:9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will show thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.
Rev 21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

Rev 22:1 And he showed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
Rev 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
Rev 22:3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:
Rev 22:4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

Rev 22:4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.
Rev 22:4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.


so...... There is neither Jew nor Greek....



You shall know them, by their fruit; anyone who denies that Jesus has come, in their flesh, is the anti-christ...

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« Reply #5 on: Wed May 30, 2007, 09:37:14 AM »

I couldn't agree more with all of your atatements on this posting. I also have been telling "Christian" folk about God not being a respecter of persons, but always meet with anger, hatred and contention, no matter how much scripture I give them.
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« Reply #6 on: Wed May 30, 2007, 01:06:04 PM »

rev Eric!

Welcome to the Forum!

Heya, I want to be sure to tell you about another forum where you and your wife might find online fellowship.

http://www.tentmaker.org/smf/index.php

for mature Christians, and the moderator allows the Holy Spirit to help him run the forum.

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« Reply #7 on: Mon Jun 18, 2007, 10:24:34 PM »

Who is a Jew? I am! Ethnically speaking anyway. I don't subscribe to the belief that any race is superior or "chosen" by God, we are all equal in terms of our carnal mind keeping us from knowledge of the divine.
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